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#1 02 May 2008 10:12:36

fbianco
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[FSF] Get DeltaH, gNewSense 2.0

Joshua joyful a écrit:

De : Joshua joyful <jgay-gnu.org>
À : info-fsf-gnu.org, info-press-gnu.org
Date : Hier 23.37:33
   
BOSTON, MA, USA — May 1, 2008 — The gNewSense project today announced
the release of DeltaH[1], the second version of their all free-software
GNU/Linux distribution.

The DeltaH download web page states[2], "DeltaH was our second major
release, based on Ubuntu Hardy. 2.0 was released on May 1st 2008 -
less than a week after Hardy's release."

The gNewSense project dubs itself as "A free as in freedom GNU/Linux
distribution, that takes all the non-free blobs out of a rather
popular distribution."

In addition to stripping binary blobs from the kernel, the package and
source trees contain only free software drivers, and do not offer
access to any proprietary software. Because of this commitment to free
software, the Free Software Foundation and the GNU project recommend
that users seeking to install a distribution of GNU/Linux consider
installing gNewSense.

The developers of gNewSense invite those interested in discussing this
latest release to join their mailing list[3] or join them on
irc.freenode.net in the #gnewsense channel.

[1],[2]: http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/Deltah
[3]: http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinf … ense-users


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#2 02 May 2008 14:39:42

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Re: [FSF] Get DeltaH, gNewSense 2.0

Quelqu'un a déjà testé une de ces distrib 100% libre.

Car je serai interessé de savoir s'il est possible d'exploiter un pc standard correctement. Je pense surtout aux drivers (son, wireless, gpu, ...).
Je sais pas jusqu'à quel point c'est expérimental.


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#3 02 May 2008 16:02:31

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Re: [FSF] Get DeltaH, gNewSense 2.0

Salut, je n'ai jamais testé celle-ci. Mais ma machine sous Debian n'utilise que des drivers libres ... en fait ça va dépendre de ta machine.


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#4 03 May 2008 18:45:54

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Re: [FSF] Get DeltaH, gNewSense 2.0

Moui...
Si tu parles de ton portable X61, il est basé sur une plateforme intel embarquant une carte wifi demandant un firmware qui n'est pas vraiment considéré comme libre par plein de gens.


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#5 04 May 2008 11:19:26

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Re: [FSF] Get DeltaH, gNewSense 2.0

Je crois que ça a changé :

The iwlwifi project can be found in kernels 2.6.24 and up. You thus do not need a driver from this site if you are using one of these kernels.

ou est-ce que le code dans le noyau ne fonctionne pas sans ce firmware ?

Sinon, voilà les infos que j'ai trouvé à propos de la licence du firmware :
http://support.intel.com/support/wirele … 016675.htm
http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openb … /25/150158

et à propos du firmware
http://kerneltrap.org/node/7704

mais sans pouvoir répondre à ma question.


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#6 04 May 2008 17:25:32

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Re: [FSF] Get DeltaH, gNewSense 2.0

Apparemment, un microcode est nécessaire pour faire tourner les cartes wifi intel même si le driver en temps que tel est libre :

http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi
http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iw … =downloads

La licence d'utilisation du-dit microcode (ici, iwlwifi-3945-ucode-2.14.1.5):

Copyright (c) 2006, Intel Corporation.
All rights reserved.

Redistribution.  Redistribution and use in binary form, without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met:

* Redistributions must reproduce the above copyright notice and the
  following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials
  provided with the distribution.
* Neither the name of Intel Corporation nor the names of its suppliers
  may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
  without specific prior written permission.
* No reverse engineering, decompilation, or disassembly of this software
  is permitted.

Limited patent license.  Intel Corporation grants a world-wide,
royalty-free, non-exclusive license under patents it now or hereafter
owns or controls to make, have made, use, import, offer to sell and
sell ("Utilize") this software, but solely to the extent that any
such patent is necessary to Utilize the software alone, or in
combination with an operating system licensed under an approved Open
Source license as listed by the Open Source Initiative at
http://opensource.org/licenses.  The patent license shall not apply to
any other combinations which include this software.  No hardware per
se is licensed hereunder.

DISCLAIMER.  THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND
CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING,
BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND

FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
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INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING,
BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS
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ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR
TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE
USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
DAMAGE.

Libre (fsf, dfsg, etc.) ?


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#7 04 May 2008 17:43:29

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Re: [FSF] Get DeltaH, gNewSense 2.0

DFSG probablement pas... firmware-iwlwifi est dans les dépôts Debian, mais dans la section non-free (soit non-DFSG).

++, OdyX

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